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 Post subject: Sbach 342 29%
PostPosted: Sat 07 Jan 2012, 00:35 
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Wing span: xxxx :lol:
Length: 1xxxmm
Wing area: xxx
Engine: xx :lol:
Empty Weight: xxxx-xxxxg
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 Post subject: Re: Black Thunder
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Ska du köpa eller har du köpt en Sbach :lol:

Wing span: 2209mm/87in
Length: 1923mm/75.7in
Wing area: 86.5sq.dm/1343.1sq.in
Engine: 50-60CC
Empty Weight: 3530-3750g

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 Post subject: Re: Black Thunder
PostPosted: Sat 07 Jan 2012, 01:22 
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Black Thunder låter coolt i alla fall, vad det nu är. ;-)
SBach i svart utförande är ju för jäkla snygg!
Mer info nu! ;-D


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 Post subject: Re: Black Thunder
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Okey!!!!Let me say something about sbach 342.


I am Fergus Lin the pilot in vedio.I visit Tony 2 weeks ago and testing all of their sbach(30% 35% 40%)

30% sbach 342
30% sbach fly with 3MM 53(new version) swimming JXF 24*8 has 6300
The weight of sbach is light and wing load of this bird small.......It make 30% sbach 342 fly excellent.......I has install and tes fly pilot 30% Yak-54 and Extra 300 before....
The Yak fly sensitive ..and..Extra fly stable and little clumsy(but for all 3D fly it has no any problem)----Actually I love character of Extra 300 so much....
The flying of Sbach just between two of than.

35% sbach 342
In my view point the 35% aerobatic plane is best size for IMAC and 3D fly.the power-wieight rate is best compare with other size, it was stable but you will not feel it's clumsy,people alyays think the YAK is best 3D machine ; I had flew pilot -RC Yak for more 300 flight compare with them sbach 342 also excellent for 3D.they has different character but both of then was excellent.
The sbach 342 35% is one of best plane I had flew , It is very stable but not clusm, The low speed 3D fly was excellent (maybe little bit better than YAK)it will always fallow your order and do what you want it to do,Fantasty 3D machine,...It also very goof for IMAC fly The rudder effect is very good,It is easy to do knif edge loop and rolling circlr!!!The key is it flt stable in cross wind If you want competition in IMAC it is very good choose!!!!

40% Sbach 342
Compare with other size of Sbach the this one was extremely stable.It stable than trainer.But it 3d well and very quick respon,this plane was stable in any speed!! wing load was small.......it fly much better than my composit-arf 3.0m extra 330.......same 35% sbach it has very good rudder effect. For me it is best look Sbach because it's big I hope I can have it one day!!!


All the series of sbach fly fantasty then all have very good look and excellent perform.After test all of them I bring two sbach(30% and 35%) back Taiwan it's one the way home and will receive next Monday,Can't wait to fly mine.I will post some pic at times

If you are wonder about the performance of Sbach please reference what I write,It fly excellent you wil love it!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Black Thunder
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Eftersom du har den i signaturen så är den säkert på kommande :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Black Thunder
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29% kräver väl en motor på 50-60ccm så 35% Sbach måste väl ha en 100-110ccm maskin.

Vad blir det för maskin i din 35% Sbach och vem säljer den, jag trodde Sbachen bara tillverkades som 36% av Pilot RC.

En MOKI 100 BVT skulle sitta fint men den går ju på 16000sek

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 Post subject: Re: Black Thunder
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Den är ju förberedd för DL-55 med hål och allt... men den här är lika stor och mer power och lite billigare http://www.aircpro.com/airc/homepage.ns ... enDocument så jag vet ej ännu. Måste forska vidare lite innan jag trycker på fler knappar :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Black Thunder
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Ser att flyget har krymt till en 29% sbach :D

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 Post subject: Re: Black Thunder
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Har läst på lite om olika motorer...DLE 55 är folk väldigt nöjda med...ligger rätt bra till i pris oxå... så det lutar åt en DLE 55 8)

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Jag har en oanvänd DLE-55 står här på bordet ny och fin, klart nöjd med den än så länge. :mrgreen: Ska ha den i Bulldogen. Då när jag köpte den så hade den bra betyg (2 år sen).


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Kanske skulle vara roligt och ha en liten twin.
Vet inget om den här maskinen men varför inte.
5.5HP 53cc twin boxer http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... gine_.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... 29a105375a

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 Post subject: Re: Black Thunder
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Nej jag håller mig till beprövat material 8) Lite sugen på nya DA 60.... men ärr det värt pengarna.... svindyr... men det lär vara ett riktigt powerhouse.

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MickeM wrote:
Jag har en oanvänd DLE-55 står här på bordet ny och fin, klart nöjd med den än så länge. :mrgreen: Ska ha den i Bulldogen. Då när jag köpte den så hade den bra betyg (2 år sen).


Det lär ju ha kommit ut en DLE-55 V2 som jag tror man får om man köper nu. Den lär ha lite andra port tider än den första. Men det är ju bara för dig att byta cylle så är den uppdaterad, men det lär nog ej behövas 8)

DLE Engines Performance: TBM has tested many engines over the years, and DLE is one that has performed very well in our tests and in the marketplace. Their low price is really attractive!! Hundreds of engines have been sold and all performance issues have now been sorted out. While DLE engines are excellent, service and warranty are important aspects.

DLE Warranty: TBM is offering a 1 year warranty of parts and labor for DLE engines in addition to DLE's 1 year warranty for engines purchased from TBM. This covers your TBM bought DLE engine for parts and labor for 2 years total! See the engine warranty webpage for details.

Factory Authorized DLE Service from TBM: In order to provide superior service to DLE customers, TBM is factory authorized to service DLE engines in Sarasota Florida. TBM will provide warranty work as well as repairs after warranty. DLE engines are sold by countless companies who are not authorized dealers. If you purchase an engine from an unauthorized dealer who does not have a repair center you will NOT have a warranty. If you have an ignition problem, you are missing parts, you wear out the bearings, etc. you have to pay for the repairs yourself or replace the engine. Standard labor and shipping rates apply.

Spare Parts for DLE engines: TBM carries most spare parts for DLE engines.

Why purchase DLE engines from TBM? The manufacturer sets the retail pricing, so the pricing should be similar from any source. TBM offers a few extra incentives to purchase from time to time, so check our website and sign up for our newsletter. If you see a price that is better than ours from another DLE factory authorized US retailer please let us know and we will match that price.

Ignition: DLE has their own ignition. It works reliably though some people swap it out for a CH ignition and claim better performance. It is not necessary to change ignitions, we have had good luck with ours. It requires no more than 6v, so use a 4-cell NiCad or NiMh with no regulator, or use a Li Phos, LiPoly, Li Ion, 5-cell Nicad or NiMh and use a regulator set at 5.9v. There is no improvement in performance with higher voltages, so don’t use them. There is no warranty on ignitions because if they see more than 6v, then can fail. Use a heavy duty switch due to the high current. A 1400 mah battery is good for 6 flights or more. We typically use a 2600 mah LiIon battery which will last for a weekend of flying on a single charge.

Carburetor: All carbs are pumper types and can in some cases be rotated 180 degrees to suit installation preferences.

Prop Mounting: All DLE engines except for the DLE 20 use multi bolt hubs.

Spark Plug: NGK-CM6 which TBM stock. DLE recommends 0.018-0.020" gap. Do not overtighten! While DLE engines are great, the original equipment spark plugs are not! While some plugs are fine, some are not. Plugs are not covered under warranty. Should you experience any running problem, first change the spark plug. We recommend carrying a spare plug at all times.

Fuel: Use regular unleaded gas. Ethanol/Methanol is not good for the diaphragms in the carbs, so if your local fuel used ethanol or methanol, it is a good idea to run the carb dry. I seldom do this during the flying season, but for storage it is a good idea. Of course I live in Florida so I don’t store planes any more.

Oil: We recommend Pennzoil air cooled 2-stroke oil mixed at 32:1 (4oz/gallon) for the first 2-3 gallons. This oil comes in a yellow bottle and many auto parts supply stores carry it. Use a good synthetic at a ratio of 32:1 for the life of the engine.

Propellers: Be sure to start out with a smaller “Break In” prop when the engine is new. Larger props will give more vertical performance with light planes, and less vertical performance in heavier planes. Lower pitch props are best for WWI planes, higher pitches for WWII fighters.

Break-in: Use a break in prop. Install the engine into the plane. Tune the plane on the ground before the first flight, then fly the plane around gently for the first few gallons. Do not go to full throttle operation for more than a few seconds until you have a few gallons of gas through the engine. Do not break the engine in on the ground for 2 gallons. It is best to fly the plane because more air goes over the engine and keeps it cooler. Heat is the big enemy during break in. It is best if the cowl is baffled to direct the air onto the engine. Using a small prop reduces the load. Keep the plane moving for the first few gallons. No torque rolling!!! I know it is tempting because you can torque roll at ¼ throttle, but the engine will overheat until it is broken in. There is more friction between the piston ring and piston with the cylinder wall until they have a chance to wear in.

First flight: Following the break in procedure above, start the engine using the factory needle settings. Leave the cowl off. Let the plane run on the ground for a minute at a high idle. The engine starts to break in quickly, and you may notice the rpm increase on its own. Run the engine up to full throttle momentarily to see if the needle valve settings are correct. Don't run the engine too rich. A little bit of a rich burble on occasion is best for the first flight. Be sure the idle is reliable and low enough to land. If the idle is too high you might run off the runway and damage your plane, so be careful to get the idle as low as possible. Be prepared to kill the engine if necessary because the idle speed will increase as the engine breaks in. After the first flight, the engine will be noticeably different already. After a few flights you will be ready to tweak the needles and go full bore.

Never go to full throttle while the engine is cold. Let it warm up for 30 seconds before you start hammering the throttle.

These engines are proven winners at a great price. Enjoy your engine safely!
Some very important information regarding DLE products!

DLE Engines is one of the most prolific manufacturers of model airplane engines in China.

Troy Built Models has a direct relationship with DLE Engines and we offer only genuine DLE products.

Due to their immense popularity and reputation for quality, the economy seems to have forced some dishonest companies to manufacturer and try and pass their 50 and 100cc products off as original DL 50 or DL 100 engines.

For example, a genuine DL 50 engine would have a neatly machine etched serial # of less than 700 and be cast labeled DL 50. A DL 50 copy, however, would have a serial # much higher (usually hand inscribed with an electric scriber), have lower quality bearings and piston rings with a high failure rate, lower quality crankshaft material and a lower quality overall fit and finish.

Because of this, DLE Engines has since discontinued their 50 and 100cc engines and are now offering only the DLE 55 and DLE 111, as well as the new DLE20, DLE 30 and DLE 222.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Thunder
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Nu vet jag lite mer om projektet! Både Flyget och canistern är på väg! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8klnH1vL ... re=related

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These Muffer can be assembled with DLE 55 and DLE 111 Engine.
It can reduce Noise when you fly the airplane.

Polished Aluminium Canister with Stainless Steel Flexible Header pipe
and teflon couple with two spring clumps.

Stainless Steel Flexi Header -340mm from centre of exhaust flange to tip
Corrogated section 200mm long and 34mm DiameterTail Section 100mm long
25mm Diameter Outlet canister muffler 252 mm long not including pipe
65mm(or 60mm) Diameter Body (67mm at weld seam)25mm Diameter Inlet pipe
16mm Outlet
You will need to buy two sets for twins like the the DLE111/DA100,Canister can
be used with other brand 25mm headers if needed to suit your install, instead of
the supplied flexi header.
Also suits many other Chinese engines 40 - 60cc per cylinder with ~42mm bolt
hole spacing on exhaust header such as MT50/57/CRRC etc.

Weight:
Canister = 250 gram
Flexi Header = 130 Gram
Both Clips = 15 Gram
Teflon Coupler = 25 Gram.
Total Weight = 420 Gram

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 Post subject: Re: Black Thunder
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Nu är Motorn och propellern oxå på väg.

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Ja nu har jag börjat fota lite delar till projektet.


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Kul att RC aktiviteten frodas på Eckerö :D . Det ser ut att vara bra kvalite´på såväl flyg som motor (hoppas att utseendet inte bedrar). I väntan på premiärtur så hoppas jag att du uppdaterar oss med bilder på hur bygget fortskrider.

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Det kommer bilder på byggandet. kvaliteten är det inget fel på. det va därför jag valde pilot rc. Ni får se närmare under byggets gång. Mitt mål är att stå flygklar till försommaren :help: har ju så mycket på gång just nu bara. tiden vill inte räcka till. Spikar på huset morgon till sen kväll sen i augusti :roll: Men jag ska försöka ta mig tid lite nu och då. Just nu reglas det väggar och gipsas och dras data och el i hela kåken...... spacklas tapeter golv är snart aktuellt. till sommaren ska kåken målas. Men man måste ta sig lite tid till sin hobby oxå :mrgreen:

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Ska bli roligt att se den flyga i vår

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Ska bli roligt att se den flyga i vår


Jo det ska bli roligt att premiära denna här :D

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